skat i'll get pics.... hehe well i'll try for later today. I'm pretty busy for the next week or so.

I think I responded to all PM's

Dude4009 you didnt mention anything about the pack in your pms.

rofl. i have no idea what size they are. probably a large. but that series of hybrid pants fit small. im about a size 32 and they fit me but i have to tighten up the straps quite a bit.